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Card Games; Affectionate nicknames for Grandmother/Aunt/Great Aunt
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My first post; it's a two-parter, and help would be appreciated. (NaNo. Big surprise.)

Part 1
Setting is eastern North Carolina, although the setting isn't too relevant.

I'm looking for a card game that:
-is fairly complicated
-can be played by two people, and adding more people wouldn't affect gameplay
-is considered fairly intellectual or sophisticated
-would be a challenge to cheat on, but not impossible (cheating methods would also be appreciated...)
-doesn't have an embarrassing/childish name

The number of decks needed don't matter.

My original thought was Bridge, but I was told it wouldn't work with just two people. My stepdad suggested Canasta, but I don't know anything about it.

I checked Wikipedia's card games list, but Jiminy Cricket is it ever epic. And I'm not sure how to Google this, as there are a lot of points to cover.

Part 2
I need an affectionate nickname for a Grandmother, Aunt, or Great Aunt. Something along the lines of "Nana," but preferably from a European language. I know this is vague, but I looked through all, oh, seven languages on Babelfish and the best I could come up with was "Nonna," which it says is grandmother in Italian.

As a note, the exact meaning doesn't have to be one of the three, as long as it's generally an older/elder(ly) woman that one is rather close to. Taken care of, thanks!

Thanks in advance. :3

1. Fizzbin!

Or... not really, but, it's the first thing to come to mind.

2. Oma -- German for Grandmother

Growing up Polish, the word for aunt is "ciotka" which is pronounced "chawt-ka." However, as little kids we couldn't really say it properly. All aunts were "cha-cha" to us. Cha-cha Betty, Cha-cha Sofia, etc.

...that sounds so cute! And it would work, too! Thanks!

Would spelling it without the hyphen work?

Absolutely. Cha cha. We would know what that was. However you write it, to our ears it means "aunt."


Best of luck on your writing!



2009-03-23 10:17 pm (UTC)

I never heard of that name. I am of Polish descent, and the name is Baba.


Well, I don't know about sophisticated. But it is fun!

Yiayia is "grandmother" in Greek.

Down here in the American South, everyone's grandmother is Mee-Maw.

Maybe Mao for cards? But then again I just love that game to pieces.

I adore Mao. *w*

It just doesn't fit with the characters. xD Mao is more of a "for fun" game but the two men playing Random Card Game X are always playing to see which is the better. This usually involves cheating, again just to test which is the better cheater.

But Mao is the single most awesome card game out there.

Babushka is Russian for Grandmother. Baba is the affectionate term. You might also want to go with Tanteh (Yiddish, and likely German, since most of Yiddish is derived from Middle High German) which means Aunt. (And yes, it would be the same root as 'tante' (aunt in French).

My grandma used to play this crazy game she called Manage and Manipulate -- I have no idea if other people call it that. It's like the tile game Rummikub and is basically a long-ass cracked-out version of rummy, with advanced planning and as many decks as you can handle and all sorts of madness.

It's fairly similar to Bridge, but you can play it with two people (it's usually played with four, but the rules can work for two to six people).

Canasta was my first thought for card game, too. Canasta is one of only a few games I know of where multiple players can play for themselves as well as being partners - four can be four separate, or two teams, depending on the players' desire. I can explain subtle points, if you like, but try Googling it to see if it will work for you.

Cribbage might also work, but I've never played it with more than three at once. I suppose you could play it with more, but you would need enough boards to go around. (Google that one, too.)

My stepfather is from German stock - his folks are all over the Blue Ridge in southern VA, and down there, Gramma and Granpa share time with "Omi" and "Opi", which are corruptions of "Oma" and "Opa", and aunts are called "Tante" (which sounds like "Auntie" with a "t".)

Cribbage, if you play with four, is done as doubles - the game goes twice as fast. Same with six-person. Not sure how/if you can play it with five.

500 rummy is pretty much the only non-childish card game i know how to play (i hate card games)

it is a bit intellectual because you do have to pay attention to what you're doing (its not random chance)

you can play it with two people and more peopel makes a better game

to cheat, well, you'd mess with the deck and not let anyone shuffle it/just pretend to shuffle it, so you'd get dealt all the "right" cards.

Try Whist. Rules are simple, playing is hard. It was taught to me as 'bridge you can play with just two people' but that wa years ago, so I can't really help with the rules... I seem to recall you can add people, definitely considered sophisticated, but don't know about the ease of cheating either, sorry.

Most games popular for gambling are pretty good intilectual games. To be good at Poker, you really do need to be able to think past blind luck. As well, 32 and BlackJack are pretty strategic. If you card-count, that's considered cheating. I can't remember the game with the algorithm for the perfect betting strategy, but it might be 32 or BlackJack.

Canasta or whist are both good - my dad taught them to my brother and I, then we had to go away and practise against each other so that he didn't beat us so badly every time.



2009-03-23 10:19 pm (UTC)

I used to play canasta all the time when I was young. I really loved the game. The only thing I remember about it now, is that you use two decks of cards to play.

Euchre? It's a cut-down version of 500, and can be upconverted to take in extra players. One can cheat by looking at the backs of the cards as they're subtly different or stacking the deck on your shuffle/deal in order to get a good card that came up in the last game to come back in your hand.

Spite and Malice might work...
It's basically... competitive group solitare, more or less... you build a-king stacks in the center, trying to get rid of the center pile (and keep your 4 discard piles in sufficient order to get at anything you need...) There are more rules than that, but that's the basics.
You could presumably cheat by checking what's in your center pile somehow (thus knowing what card you want to have coming up, and/or arranging a shuffle (often you have to shuffle the central discard pile mid-game) so that you'll get the card(s) you want (though that's tricky, as you draw different amounts depending on what you've played, you could basically only do it for your first hand after a shuffle...)
If you add additional people (which you can't do mid-game, but...), you might need another deck (usually you have at least one deck per person, all shuffled together into one stack)

Plus, the *name* seems like something people might play competitively in a semiobsessive fashion...

The mods are going to yell at you for the strikethrough, if they notice.
you can put "Edit: I have this bit" or whatever, but not strikethrough of something that someone else might want to read later (if they have the same question)

Thanks for the warning. Fixed!

Part 2: Yaya (Spanish). It works for grandma, aunt and great aunt. Good luck!

For the card game, possibly klabberjass (which may or may not have as many double-letters as I've put in... oops). Tis a Jewish card game and whist/bridge-like. For 2 people. Once you know the rules, they're easy enough though tactics can be complicated. But when you teach someone it, about halfway through they always go 'surely you're making the rules up by now' since there's so many weird little additional ones...

Woops, although I'm really not sure how to add more than 2 players to klabberjass. It possibly could be done though...

For a card game, what about Spades?

Did anyone mention Rook? It does have to have its own deck, however ( It has a long and honored tradition in the South because it isn't, technically, a card game because it doesn't use standard playing cards (therefore good Baptists and so forth can play it -- although my parents were good Southern Baptists, which never kept them from playing a rousing round of Bridge [g]).

It may require four people, however. I haven't played the game since I was a child, so I don't remember.

Pinochle is usually played by four people, but there are two and three person versions using a kitty or a dead man's hand. Additional players can be dealt in between hands.


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